For you Indiana locals… did y’all catch the News at 6 on WRTV? Norm Cox did an interview with Pepper Partin about the planned protest at the The Annual Irvington Halloween Festival (you can read about the festival at Indyscribe ). The protest is being organized by Rock Indiana and is being dubbed “Indiana’s Witch Hunt.”
The main focus of the protest is State Senator Patricia Miller (she is co-sponsoring the festival). Miller’s recent history of aggressively supporting and sponsoring legislation that is aimed directly at gays and lesbians in Indiana is obvious. A few weeks ago she authored the controversial “authorized reproduction” bill, but has a history of trying to oppress gays and lesbians. She also sponsored a bill would that would move university employees to a state health-care plan and limit benefits to state and university employees, their spouses and children, effectively removing domestic partner benefits. She also voted in favor of SJR7. But she isn’t just limiting herself to legislating gays and lesbians into oblivion. Her position as the executive director of the Confessing Movement (a radical conservative anti-gay movement within the United Methodist Church) allows her to oppress gays and lesbians every day. This “movement” seeks to root out ANY acceptance of GLBT from within the United Methodist Church. It’s obvious that this woman is obsessed with denying GLBT citizens in every facet of life. In the interview with Channel 6 she denied being a religious zealot, but I think Senator Miller’s actions speak louder than her words.
I wrote the following email to John Gregg, a local talk show host here on AM radio (WIBC).
First of all, I’d like to say that even though I am sure we are philosophically at opposite ends of the spectrum (I’m a Green), I enjoy listening to your show on IBC.
You read a quote of someone that advocated that this was a bad time to “take God out of the Pledge of Allegiance.”
The Pledge was written by Reverend Francis Bellamy in 1892. Francis Bellamy was a Socialist Christian and did not include the words “under God” in the Pledge. “Under God” was not added to the pledge until 1954.It was a response to growth of communism. The genesis of adding “Under God” was from a sermon of Reverend Dr. George M. Docherty, a Presbyterian minister. He said “And I came to a strange conclusion. there was something missing in this Pledge, and that which was missing was the characteristic and definitive factor in the “American Way of Life.” Indeed, apart from the mention of the phrase, the United States of America, this could be the pledge of any Republic. In fact, I could hear little Muscovites repeat a similar pledge to their hammer and sickle flag in Moscow with equal solemnity, for Russia is also a Republic that claims to have overthrown the tyranny of kingship”
You can read his full sermon here:
I do not believe that you can have a representative republic and theocracy at the same time. Jefferson said
“In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.”
The founding fathers spoke to the separation of church and state… to list a few…
“Our civil rights have no dependence upon our religious opinions more than our opinions in physics or geometry.”
“The Civil Government, tho’ bereft of everything like an associated hierarchy, possesses the requisite stability and performs its functions with complete success; whilst the number, the industry, and the morality of the Priesthood, and the devotion of the people have been manifestly increased by the total separation of the Church from the State.”
“The substance and essence of Christianity, as I understand it, is eternal and enchangeable, and will bear examination forever, but it has been mixed with extraneous ingredients, which I think will not bear examination, and they ought to be separated.”
“As to religion, I hold it to be the indispensable duty of government to protect all conscientious protesters thereof, and I know of no other business government has to do therewith.”
The voice of our founding fathers rings quite clear on this subject. That isn’t to say that I think we should simply go on what the founding fathers believed (if we did, blacks would still be slaves and women would be considered property under the eyes of the law). I do believe that this is a nation where the government is dedicated to be “For the people, by the people, and of the people.”
If we choose as a nation to move closer to a theocratic form of government, we should be honest and forthright about our intentions in doing so.
I listen to you on the drive home from work (I work 3rds). I hope at some point I get home in enough time to call in!
“It depends on what the meaning of the words ‘is’ is.”
“To the extent the federal government didn’t fully do its job right, I take responsibility.”
“It depends on how you define alone ”
Who uttered these quotes? The first and third quotes are from Bill Clinton, concerning the Monica Lewinsky affair. The second is from a speech given today by George W. Bush. He’s finally admitting some responsibility for the New Olreans FEMA debacle.
“That spirit is the spirit of a determined nation willing to defend our freedoms, no matter what the cost. That American spirit says loud and clear that we’re willing to serve something greater than ourselves. We’re willing to serve people in need, a community we love.” George W. Bush – October 31, 2002
Ya…. right. I guess it depends on what the meaning of the word “love” is, right George?
Where are all those gun toting 2nd amendment right wingers? An AP piece today said that
Police fearing deadly confrontations with jittery residents enforced a new order that bars homeowners from owning guns. That order apparently does not apply to the hundreds of M-16-toting private security guards hired to protect businesses and wealthy property owners.
Do you hear any right wingers screaming foul? They say that it isn’t safe for residents to stay where they are, but isn’t this a FREE country? People are supposed to be able to make stupid decisions.
Amazing that even in this time of great peril that only the rich and powerful deserve their 2nd amendment rights.
Watching President Bush on CNN this morning talk about the “war on terror” something hit me. How can we be in “a global war on terror” as President Bush calls it, yet we don’t call the “detainees” down at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, prisoners of war?
Then we’d have to follow the Geneva Suggestions Conventions…
Friday, George Bush seemed to shoulder some of the blame for the slow reaction of federal rescue and relief efforts. Not a day later he shifted the blame to state and local officials in Louisiana. Bush said “The magnitude of responding to a crisis over a disaster area that is larger than the size of Great Britain has created tremendous problems that have strained state and local capabilities. The result is that many of our citizens simply are not getting the help they need, especially in New Orleans. And that is unacceptable.”
I found it odd that President Bush would chastise local officials in Louisiana, yet he praises officials from FEMA and the Governor of Mississippi. The difference? Louisana’s governor is a Democrat, and Mississippi’s governor is a former chairman of the Republican National Committee.
“I dont treat my dog like that,” 47-year-old Daniel Edwards said as he pointed at the woman in the wheelchair. “I buried my dog.” He added: “You can do everything for other countries, but you cant do nothing for your own people. You can go overseas with the military, but you cant get them down here.”